PHOENIX -- The only time we've seen any jurors in the Jodi Arias murder trial is when two of them were booted from the trial for bad behavior.
But now many of us are waiting to see what will happen in court next, as the remaining eight men and four women deliberate.
"Look at the experts, anybody she spends a considerable amount of time with she tends to be able to charm them and I think maybe she was able to do that in this case," said criminal defense attorney Dwane Cates.
Cates isn't representing anyone in the Arias case. However, he suspects Arias might have charmed the men on the jury, something Arias' attorney, Kirk Nurmi, admitted last week she hasn't done with him.
Nurmi said during his closing arguments, "It's not about whether or not you like Jodi Arias. Nine days out of 10, I don't like Jodi Arias ... but that doesn't matter."
Nurmi has been called "nerdy Nurmi" on Twitter.
Everything from his clothing to his courtroom manners have been ridiculed online, but no can say the Arias case has been an easy one to defend.
The defendant has changed her story several times and she was interviewed on network television lying about what happened in 2008 when her boyfriend, Travis Alexander, was killed.
Nurmi's private firm typically defends people accused of sexual assault.
Like him or not, Cates suspects Nurmi's already winning big because the jury is made up of mostly men.
"She has this ability to charm men," Cates said. "I mean there was a reporter that visited with her off the record and came out and thought she was going to be acquitted."
Legal experts expect the jury will return with a verdict before the end of the week.
Arias could end up on death row if convicted of first-degree murder for Alexander's murder.