Scottsdale counselor gives thoughts on Sandusky interview

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by Fields Moseley

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Posted on November 15, 2011 at 9:58 PM

Updated Tuesday, Nov 15 at 10:35 PM

PHOENIX - Former Penn State football coach, Jerry Sandusky admitted he showered with young boys in the schools locker room in an interview with Bob Costas.  He said, he never did anything of a sexual nature, leading Costas to remark, if all the allegations are false, "You are the unluckiest and most persecuted man any of us has ever seen."

3TV took Sandusky's interview to a valley man who has worked with sexual predators and he found some the answers troubling.

“I've been working with sex offenders for 17 years in my work,” said Licensed Professional Counselor, Ken Wells.  “He did sound remorseful in his voice.”

“Is that normal to be remorseful?” I asked.

“Sure,” Wells said.

“Or is that just part of the deception?” I asked.

“It can be both,” Wells said.  “And that takes a skilled professional to tease that out.”

Wells hasn't seen the indictment against Sandusky, but said this interview could be viewed as a pedophile trying to minimize what he has done.

“Certainly, if he's done those behaviors, then he demonstrated by that interview, denial, displacement of responsibilities and being very, very deceptive,” Wells said.

In the phone interview, Costas had this exchange.

"Are you a pedophile?"

"No,"  Sandusky answered.

"Are you sexually attracted to young boys?  To underage boys?" Costas asked.

"Am I sexually attracted to underage boys?" Sandusky repeated.

"Yes," Costas confirmed.

"Sexually attracted?” Sandusky repeated again.  “I enjoy young people.  I love to be around them.  But no, I'm not sexually attracted to young boys."

“That would be a concern to me,” said Wells.  “And that kind of response, I would want to explore thoroughly with the base of evidence I have in front of me.”

In a matter of fact way, Wells said this is sad, but it will happen again as long as schools, churches, companies and society at large ignores unacceptable behavior.

“He created this huge world around him if that's truly what he wanted to accomplish?” I asked.

“And that's not uncommon,” said Wells.  “And that's scary, that augments for why we need to hold systems accountable.

Sandusky’s attorney was also a part of that interview with Costas.  He stood by the former coach personally and professionally, saying jocks take showers and horse around and that doesn’t mean anything illegal happened.  He even said he would trust Sandusky with his own children.

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